Amtrak Springfield Line in CT incl. poss. Greenfield ext.

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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby Kilo Echo » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:23 pm

shadyjay wrote:Stations are looking pretty good, too, complete with CTRail AND Amtrak messaging boards.

The Wallingford and Meriden stations are open already?
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby shadyjay » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:28 pm

Negative. There are temporary single-door "platforms" at Berlin, Meriden, and Wallingford. Berlin's is at the south end of the old platform, Meriden's is on the old Brook Street grade crossing, and Wallingford is at the south end of the old station's platform.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby asull85 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:41 pm

Part of the Meriden high level platform on Track 2 goes into service on Monday morning. Please mind the gap...
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby Larry » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Siding for the Salt has been placed back in and looks really great with the new retaining wall that was built for this customer located in the North Meadows North of Hartford. Just in time as winter is just around the corner and salt cars hopefully will be on there way soon. CSO could use the business.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby shadyjay » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:34 pm

Amtrak will be moving to the new CTRail commuter station in Wallingford, about a mile north of the existing station, effective 11/6/2017.

https://www.amtrak.com/alert/wallingfor ... -move.html
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby east point » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:17 pm

Is Amtrak going to issue a timetable change to note the obvious time changes ? Just happens to almost coincide with end of Daylight savings time.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby asull85 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:24 pm

I don't think they plan on adjusting any times until the work is completed and the speeds are increased.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby Larry » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:52 pm

Spotted in Hartford CT yard on new track #four are 17 brand new looking Amtrak Hopper cars in yellow paint and have solar panels on them. They have been there a few days now with no engine in site and I can't tell if they' re loaded or unloaded. To me they look unloaded of any ballast at this time. Not sure how long they will stay graffiti free based on their location in the yard.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby Tadman » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:14 am

Look at the springs on the trucks. Empty cars have springs that usually sit about 3/4 of the way up, loads usually sit below half. This isn't always true but it's a handy rule of thumb.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby asull85 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:42 am

Larry wrote:Spotted in Hartford CT yard on new track #four are 17 brand new looking Amtrak Hopper cars in yellow paint and have solar panels on them. They have been there a few days now with no engine in site and I can't tell if they' re loaded or unloaded. To me they look unloaded of any ballast at this time. Not sure how long they will stay graffiti free based on their location in the yard.


They're empty.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby Larry » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:22 pm

They must of had something in them because the new track heading north had ballast dumped yesterday and I saw and heard nothing so I am stumped. The new track had from the Hartford yard north to Barber street a small layer of ballast.
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Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

Postby lordsigma12345 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:45 pm

For anyone wondering whether the Amtrak shuttles would be continuing it seems to have been answered in this document:

http://www.ct.gov/dot/lib/dot/Executive ... 202017.pdf

They sort of buried this document in the press release on the fares, but it has additional key information. According to the above the new CTrail service will actually only be running a total of 8 round trips to start out, 5 between New Haven and Hartford and the remaining 3 running the whole line to Springfield. All current Amtrak service will continue and 3 additional Amtrak round trips will be starting in 2018. No details in there on the specifics of the Amtrak routes other than that they will fulfill the additional 3 round trips between New Haven and Springfield promised by the state's NHHS program. Could these end up being New Haven to Greenfield, MA trips? Will be interesting to see what happens.
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Re: Springfield Line in CT incl. possible Greenfield extensi

Postby Jeff Smith » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:17 pm

Somewhat expanded the scope of the thread since it seems possible there's funding for an extension (of the shuttles, presumably) to Greenfield, and that Amtrak crews are qualifying.

Vermonter discussed here: Amtrak Vermonter (Montreal Greenfield Boston CT River Line)

Pan Am Connecticut River line discussed here: Connecticut River Line (Pan Am)

Hartford Line (CtDOT) operations discussed here: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS
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Re: Springfield Line in CT incl. possible Greenfield extensi

Postby Jeff Smith » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:19 pm

From the Hartford Line thread and member F-Line:

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:CDOT presents 5 alternatives for Hartford Union Station relocation during the I-84 reconstruction project: http://www.courant.com/real-estate/prop ... story.html

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Re: Springfield Line in CT incl. possible Greenfield extensi

Postby NH2060 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:29 pm

lordsigma12345 wrote:According to the above the new CTrail service will actually only be running a total of 8 round trips to start out, 5 between New Haven and Hartford and the remaining 3 running the whole line to Springfield. All current Amtrak service will continue and 3 additional Amtrak round trips will be starting in 2018. No details in there on the specifics of the Amtrak routes other than that they will fulfill the additional 3 round trips between New Haven and Springfield promised by the state's NHHS program. Could these end up being New Haven to Greenfield, MA trips? Will be interesting to see what happens.

Could be either/or:

1) Amtrak is laying the groundwork for eventual NHV-Greenfield and NHV-SPG-Boston service by having these 3 additional NHV-SPG round trips in place so that they could have plenty of options to chose from as to which trains go where, if anywhere. Obviously Boston is a ways off, but it won't be that far off into the future with CSX and MassDOT having an agreement in place. Greenfield sounds like a sure thing with everyone up and down the Pioneer Valley calling for increased service in the wake of the impressive ridership numbers. An additional 3 RTs to Greenfield would appear to at least at first satisfy those demands. And if I'm not mistaken the plan was for at least 4 RTs SPG-Boston when the time comes.


2) ConnDOT figured there wouldn't be enough "in service" locomotives in rotation in time for both SLE and when the Hartford Line starts up in May with the GP40-2H and P40 fleets out for rebuild; however many units at a time. Thus, additional Amtrak service will be making up the difference until the refurbished equipment comes back and the double tracking is completed to allow for more service.
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