St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri May 12, 2017 10:21 pm

Possible seasonal mill shutdown for maintenance.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed May 17, 2017 8:56 am

Hello,
A busy 24 hours along the SLQ in Vermont ...

Yesterday morning I caught up with the SLQ westbound 393 at Norton at 0828 and followed it to Coaticook at 0858 before I had to peel off to a meeting in Magog:

GP40-2 3047
QG GP40 3105
GP40-2 3008
7 centerbeam flats
1 covered hopper
7 NaClO3 hoppers
18 boxcars/hi-cube boxcars
3 tank cars
5 propane cars
1 hi-sided gondola

That's 42 cars total, including 17 loads and 25 empties.

Then, after hiking Bluff Mountain above Island Pond, we caught the SLQ eastbound 394 arriving in Island Pond at 2032:

GP40-2 304
QG GP40 3012
25-30 cars

I was distracted and didn't get a car count or consist.

Then, this morning, the SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0805:

GP40-2 3035
QG SD40U 6904
RM-1 804
GP40-3 3905
9 centerbeam flats
1 bulkhead flat
1 NaClO3 hopper
10 boxcars/hi-cube boxcars
6 tank cars
8 propane cars

That's 35 cars total, including 8 loads and 27 empties.

George, I wondered about paper mills or other industry possibly being on "retooling" as an explanation for the shorter trains, but I know the Rumford mill was busy late last week (we drove by it on our way to and from Maine) and that would require that all the mills shut down at the same time (which certainly is possible). With the end of winter, propane car counts are way down, so that may be a lot of the explanation for the shorter trains.
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:26 pm

That seems to make the most sense. The trains I've been able to chase since moving home last Christmas have always seemed to be loaded with plenty of tanks, more so than any other type of car.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Fri May 19, 2017 9:07 pm

Fritz wrote:George, I wondered about paper mills or other industry possibly being on "retooling" as an explanation for the shorter trains, but I know the Rumford mill was busy late last week (we drove by it on our way to and from Maine) and that would require that all the mills shut down at the same time (which certainly is possible). With the end of winter, propane car counts are way down, so that may be a lot of the explanation for the shorter trains.
Have a great day,
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It would depend in part on which mills are shipping product on the SLR. Also there can be a lag in terms of product shipping vs. shutdown. Tough to say for sure what really happened but going several days without any paper shipments at all seems to point to something more than just coincidence.

Thank you for your continued reports. Without them we really would be "in the dark".
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby CN9634 » Tue May 23, 2017 4:42 pm

Summers are slow for mills, the busy season is end of summer/early Fall for the holiday season mailings (cards, packaging, letters, ect) for the folks making magazine, print, packaging and presentation stock.

Shutdowns are usually a good time for mills to draw down on warehouse inventory, typically no real shortage of things to ship. A lot rail traffic patterns depends on where things are going.. the SLR stuff is usually for consignees on CN and being as the Canadian dollar is still low, most Canadian printers get their stuff from the likes of Irving and Kruger. Only one of those companies has a mill on the SLR and it's in Quebec.

Pulp open market is way off too from what I hear.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Tue May 23, 2017 7:56 pm

CN9634 wrote:Pulp open market is way off too from what I hear.


I've wondered if that is part of the reason why Sappi thinks it's a good time to invest in tissue capacity at Somerset.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed May 24, 2017 11:19 am

Hello,
Today's very short SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond in sunshine (!) at 0850 with the following:

QG SD40 U 6904
GP40-2 3035
GP40-2 3008
4 centerbeam flats
5 boxcars
2 hi-cube boxcars
2 gondolas
2 tank cars
7 propane cars

That's 22 cars total, including 2 loads and 20 empties. There were no cars from Pan Am in today's train.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby NHV 669 » Fri May 26, 2017 4:22 pm

Jeez, almost seeing higher car counts almost from your more recent WACR reports/Chuck's photo reports of them.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Mikejf » Mon May 29, 2017 4:57 pm

Noticed today on a pass through of Lewiston Junction, all storage tracks West of the Lewiston Junction Road were empty. I have never seen that since they installed those tracks.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby bubbytrains » Tue May 30, 2017 4:59 pm

It's been a while since I checked out the SLR, but today I saw that the feed mill on the Lewiston Branch has been torn down! It used to receive covered hoppers of feed. I think in recent years it has struggled, but I didn't think it would come to this!

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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed May 31, 2017 4:36 pm

Hello,
I swung by Island Pond this morning and found the SLQ westbound 393 waiting for a recrew at 0800. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait around past 0840, and so I did not see them leave town, but here is what I saw:

QG GP40 3105
RM-1 804
GP40-3 3805
About 40 cars

By the way, sorry to hear that another customer bites the dust (feed mill on Lewiston Branch).
Have a great day,
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:27 am

Hello,
Under approaching clouds, today's SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond 0910 with a decent-sized train:

QG SD40U 6904
GP40 3004
GP40-3 3804
GP40-2 3035
GP40-2 3008
13 centerbeam flats
1 CN gondola
4 NaClO3 covered hoppers
1 grain hopper
14 propane tank cars
7 tank cars
9 hi-cube boxcars
3 boxcars

That's 52 cars, including 10 loads and 42 empties.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:56 am

Hello,
Today's westbound QGRY 393 - I mean SLQ 393 - departed Island Pond at 0828 with the following:

QG GP40 3102
QG GP40 3105
8 centerbeam flats
7 tank cars
8 propane cars
3 boxcars
6 hi-cube boxcars

That's 32 cars total, including 7 loads and 25 empties. Conspicuously absent were any cars from Pan Am at Danville Junction.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby Fritz » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:25 pm

Hello,
Today's westbound SLQ westbound 393 departed Island Pond at 0759 with the following:

GP40-3 3803
GP40-2 3008
GP40-2 3047
5 centerbeam flats
12 tank cars
10 propane cars
5 boxcars
13 hi-cube boxcars
2 covered hoppers
7 NaClO3 hoppers

That's 54 cars total, including 15 loads and 39 empties. In contrast to Wednesday's train, today's train had many cars from Pan Am at Danville Junction.
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Re: St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad (SLR/SLQ)

Postby gokeefe » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:43 am

Although I wouldn't describe it as "healthy" at least the paper traffic is there ...
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