How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

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How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby Engineer Spike » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:51 pm

I was watching Railroad Alaska, and laughing at it, much to the chagrin of my wife, who turned it on. The crew was going on about how they had problems and might run out of time.

This made me think. How does the company relieve crews? There must be lots of locations where there is no road access. Do they just put a new crew on if the first runs low on hours? Do they hi rail the dog catch? How often do they make the crew work over 12, but call it an emergency, or just pay the FRA fine?
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:25 pm

dispatcher is notified ahead of time as to what time crew outlaws, so its upto railroad to get train to place with access before they do outlaw, be it crossing, a station, a yard parallel road.
the new crew gets there by jitney and outlawed crew takes jitney to home terminal or away from home terminal .
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby jogden » Sat May 21, 2016 6:52 pm

Normally, we coordinate with the dispatcher to get to a place with road access. Some parts of Alaska Railroad have lots of road access, other areas you can go for hours without any road access.

If something unexpected happens, and a crew goes dead in an area without road access, things can get a bit more interesting. HiRail is generally the next option, but the railroad has also chartered helicopters to get crews off a train.
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby Rockingham Racer » Sat May 21, 2016 6:56 pm

You might want to cross post this question on the Pan Am forum. They're experts at having trains die on the law. The call it "getting canned". Kinda hilarious.
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby RussNelson » Sat May 21, 2016 7:55 pm

Engineer Spike wrote:How does the company relieve crews?

Some engines just have a bucket, and others have an actual commode (chemical toilet). You're well advised to relieve yourself before you get on the engine.
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby Engineer Spike » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:28 am

I like your reference to Guilford! I wish railroad.net had a like button.
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:14 pm

RussNelson wrote:
Engineer Spike wrote:How does the company relieve crews?

Some engines just have a bucket, and others have an actual commode (chemical toilet). You're well advised to relieve yourself before you get on the engine.


Russ your years past due on your story, The Bucket story was from years ago on Norfolk Southern, all have been upgraded, no more buckets but regular chemical toilets as per FRA regulations .
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Re: How are Outlawed Crews Relieved?

Postby scratchy » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:29 am

DutchRailnut wrote:
RussNelson wrote:
Engineer Spike wrote:How does the company relieve crews?

Some engines just have a bucket, and others have an actual commode (chemical toilet). You're well advised to relieve yourself before you get on the engine.


Russ your years past due on your story, The Bucket story was from years ago on Norfolk Southern, all have been upgraded, no more buckets but regular chemical toilets as per FRA regulations .

https://www.ihasabucket.com/ comes to mind.
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