Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Projects

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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby afiggatt » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:27 pm

lpetrich wrote:I could not find anything for DC, GA, IL, KS, ME, MI, NV, NM, NC, RI, SC, UT, WI

Some I can add with details on the applications - or the actual applications.
IL: http://www.connectthemidwest.com/catego ... r-funding/
Maine: http://www.amtrakdowneaster.com/expansi ... plications
NC: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/crosstown ... -461m-less

The spreadsheet in the list of NC documents lists exactly what amount the state is applying for and what the state matching would be for each project.

Most of the rest of the info I have is from press releases, either from the state DOT or Governor's website. A drawback to a press release is that they sometimes either simplify too much or don't differentiate between the total amount of the project and the amount requested from the FRA. The MD press release is an example of this for the BWI Airport area project. Is the requested amount from the FRA $299 million in addition to the $41 state matching or is the total project cost $299 million with state matching making up $41 million of it. If it is $258 million, the project is a little easier to fund. Finding the the copy of the actual HSIPR application - or at least the government provided forms because the 2439 page Illinois application for the Chi-St. Louis project is a tad long to even skim.

I tried adding up some of the projects I think should get selected in a spreadsheet just for kicks. Not easy getting it down to $2.43 billion, knowing that there will be no more than $1 billion in FY2011.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby David Benton » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:39 pm

I really dont get how they get away with increasing defense spending by $120 billion , whilst cutting hsr by $ 1.5 billion . guess Obama made the mistake of been enthusuiastic about hsr , so it became the target .
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby afiggatt » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:16 am

Found additional info on several more applications for the Florida funds, although the figure for the MN application is based on a spreadsheet that turned up with a google search and not on a official press release or posted copy of the application. I'll update my post with the list.

DC: set of access and capacity improvements to Union Station focused on improved access from the Metro, an improved western entrance and a new north entrance to Union Station. Did not find a dollar figure, but the Metro station modification really should be funded by Washington Metro and/or FTA.

Minnesota: $145 million for Twin Cities to Duluth Northern Lights Express project.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby orulz » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:05 pm

The first big project on NC's list is about $225 million to move the Charlotte station downtown and build other necessary related improvements. This would have greater immediate impact on ridership in NC than any other capital project. The current Charlotte station is too small, and is in a bad neighborhood that is about 1.5 miles from the center of downtown.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby afiggatt » Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:43 am

orulz wrote:The first big project on NC's list is about $225 million to move the Charlotte station downtown and build other necessary related improvements. This would have greater immediate impact on ridership in NC than any other capital project. The current Charlotte station is too small, and is in a bad neighborhood that is about 1.5 miles from the center of downtown.

Going to be difficult for NC to get that much funding from the Florida HSR fund reallocation given the amount of competition for the funds and because NC has gotten a pretty good chunk of the available money already. Got to spread the funding around a bit. NC might get several of the smaller projects funded for $20 or $30 million to help keep the momentum going, but NC has a big backlog of funded project work to do. The new Charlotte Gateway station as an intermodal station may be able to cobble funding together from various transit funds, even TIGER grants (if Congress has not killed the program in FY11) for the station itself and some of the projects needed to provide access to it.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby orulz » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:34 am

NC got about 7% of the initial $8 billion from the stimulus. If NC were to get a similar percentage out of the $2.4 billion, that would be $168 million. That would be enough to mostly complete the track and bridge work for Gateway Station but not build the station itself. If track improvements can be funded from the Florida money, the state and city would certainly be able to dig up $40 million for the station facility itself.

I would say that at least $1.5 billion will be split between Amtrak and California. For the remainder, I'd bet that the administration is not looking for any more standoffs with freight railroads, governors, or legislatures. Therefore, they will be looking mostly toward states that have already cut through the red tape and successfully signed federal grant agreements for major projects. As far as I know, there are only three such states: Washington, Illinois, and North Carolina.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby afiggatt » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:59 am

orulz wrote:I would say that at least $1.5 billion will be split between Amtrak and California. For the remainder, I'd bet that the administration is not looking for any more standoffs with freight railroads, governors, or legislatures. Therefore, they will be looking mostly toward states that have already cut through the red tape and successfully signed federal grant agreements for major projects. As far as I know, there are only three such states: Washington, Illinois, and North Carolina.

No, there are other states that have agreements in place. Both Maine and Vermont started track work last year with the stimulus grants. Maine with Pan Am Railways for the extension to Brunswick, VT with New England Central Railroad for the part of the Vermonter route north of MA. The Maine applications are for the Pan Am Railways section and for the MBTA owned section in MA, so no standoff issues here. I think CA has gotten some of the agreements done for the Amtrak California routes.

The Michigan Chicago-Detroit corridor project which was partially funded in the FY10 grants is to purchase the 135 miles of tracks from NS from Kalamazoo to Dearborn and upgrade it to 110 mph speeds. The Kalamazoo to Dearborn tracks are in poor condition and is getting hit with slow orders dropping speeds to 60 mph. Amtrak owns 95 miles of the corridor, so with the NS purchase, there would be 230 miles which can be upgraded to 110 mph without interference from freight track owners. Michigan is a good candidate to get some of the Florida money.

The applications from MD, PA, CT, RI are for projects on the NEC, the Amtrak owned Keystone East or New Haven-Springfield MA corridors. Two of NY's application are for either the NEC in Queens at Harold Interlocking or the MTA owned Croton-Harmon to Poughkeepsie section on the Hudson River line / Empire corridor, although I suspect neither is a strong candidate for selection by the FRA. So a lot of the applications do not have any pending agreement concerns with fright rail companies
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby jstolberg » Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:48 pm

afiggatt wrote:No, there are other states that have agreements in place. Both Maine and Vermont started track work last year with the stimulus grants. Maine with Pan Am Railways for the extension to Brunswick, VT with New England Central Railroad for the part of the Vermonter route north of MA. The Maine applications are for the Pan Am Railways section and for the MBTA owned section in MA, so no standoff issues here. I think CA has gotten some of the agreements done for the Amtrak California routes.


Plus, NY has an agreement with CP and Washington has an agreement with BNSF.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby orulz » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:11 pm

I think that if there are any substantial (>$100 million) grants in the upcoming announcement that are not for CA or projects on the NEC, at least one will be for outside the northeast US.

That leaves Washington, North Carolina, Illinois as the non-NE "sure bets" to actually build something with the money. Maybe Michigan can be counted too, since the corridor is publicly owned, but their track record is not as proven as the three above when it come to spending federal money on actual track improvements. The money they have received so far has been used for corridor acquisition, station work, and planning.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby jstolberg » Mon May 02, 2011 7:09 pm

Decisions to be announced within the next month.
As WBBM Newsradio 780′s Bob Roberts reports, Federal Railroad Administrator Joe Szabo said the funding decisions should be made in less than a month.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/05/02/ ... il-grants/
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby jstolberg » Fri May 06, 2011 10:28 pm

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will visit Detroit and New York on Monday to make major high-speed rail funding announcements.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110506 ... 1409/metro
Secretary LaHood will be accompanied by Governor Rick Snyder and Detroit Mayor Dave Bing.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby j653 » Mon May 09, 2011 8:05 am

What's the justification for building a new line from Chicago to Detroit versus improving the Detroit-Toldeo-Chicago route? The Toledo route would also benefit east coast trains, versus a new line which will only benefit Detroit.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2 Billion Available for HSR Projects

Postby Chafford1 » Mon May 09, 2011 1:58 pm

Today's announcement:

http://www.fra.dot.gov/roa/press_releas ... 7-11.shtml


Rail project highlights include:

NORTHEAST CORRIDOR (NEC)

Amtrak – NEC Power, Signal, Track, Catenary Improvements – $450 million to boost capacity, reliability, and speed in one of the most heavily-traveled sections of the Northeast Corridor, creating a 24-mile segment of track capable of supporting train speeds up to 160-mph.

Maryland – NEC Bridge Replacement – $22 million for engineering and environmental work to replace the century-old Susquehanna River Bridge, which currently causes frequent delays for commuters due to the high volume of critical maintenance.

New York – NEC Harold Interlocking Amtrak Bypass Routes – $295 million to alleviate major delays for trains coming in and out of Manhattan with new routes that allow Amtrak trains to bypass the busiest passenger rail junction in the nation.

Rhode Island – NEC Kingston Track, Platform Improvements – $25 million for design and construction of an additional 1.5 miles of third track in Kingston, RI, so high-speed trains operating at speeds up to 150-mph can pass trains on a high-volume section of the Northeast Corridor.


Rhode Island – NEC Providence Station Improvements – $3 million for preliminary engineering and environmental work to renovate the Providence Station. These upgrades will enhance the passenger experience, keep the station in good working order and improve transit and pedestrian connectivity.

NORTHEASTERN REGION

Connecticut – New Haven to Springfield Track Construction – $30 million to complete double-track segments on the corridor, bringing added intercity rail service to a route that plays an important role in the region, connecting communities in Connecticut and Massachusetts to the NEC, as well as Vermont.

Massachusetts/Maine – Downeaster Track Improvements – $20.8 million to construct a 10.4-mile section of double track between Wilmington and Andover, MA. Track upgrades will increase schedule performance and dependability for passengers traveling on the Northern New England Downeaster corridor.

New York – Empire Corridor Capacity Improvements – $58 million to construct upgrades to tracks, stations and signals, improving rail operations along the Empire Corridor. This includes replacement of the Schenectady Station and construction of a fourth station track at the Albany - Rensselaer Station, one of the corridor’s most significant bottlenecks.

New York – Rochester Station and Track Improvements – $1.4 million for a preliminary engineering and environmental analysis for a new Rochester Intermodal Station on the Empire Corridor, connecting passengers with additional transit and pedestrian options.



Pennsylvania – Keystone Corridor Interlocking Improvements – $40 million to rebuild an interlocking near Harrisburg on the Keystone Corridor, saving travelers time and improving passenger train schedule reliability.

REGIONAL EQUIPMENT POOLS

Next Generation Passenger Rail Equipment Purchase – This state-of-the-art rail equipment will provide safe and reliable American-built vehicles for passenger travel, while boosting the U.S. manufacturing industry.

Midwest Corridors – $268.2 million to purchase 48 high-performance passenger rail cars and 7 quick-acceleration locomotives for 8 corridors in the Midwestern States: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, and Missouri.
California Corridors – $68 million to acquire 15 high-performance passenger rail cars and 4 quick-acceleration locomotives for the Pacific Surfliner, San Joaquin, and Capitol Corridors in California.
MIDWESTERN REGION

Illinois – Chicago - St. Louis Corridor – $186.3 million to construct upgrades on the Chicago - St. Louis Corridor between Dwight and Joliet, IL with trains operating at 110 mph for more than 220 miles of track. This investment will reduce trip times, enhance safety and add more seats on the corridor, increasing the number of people who can conveniently travel by train.

Michigan – Kalamazoo-Dearborn Service Development – $196.5 million to rehabilitate track and signal systems, bringing trains up to speeds of 110 mph on a 235-mile section of the Chicago to Detroit corridor, reducing trip times by 30 minutes.

Michigan – Ann Arbor Station Project – $2.8 million for an engineering and environmental analysis to construct a new high-speed rail station in Ann Arbor, MI, that will better serve passengers and allow more than one train to serve the station simultaneously.

Minnesota – Northern Lights Express – $5 million to complete engineering and environmental work for establishing the Northern Lights Express – a high-speed intercity passenger service – connecting Minneapolis to Duluth, with 110-mph high-speed rail service.


Missouri – Merchant’s Bridge Replacement – $13.5 million to advance the design of a new bridge over the Mississippi River on the Chicago to St. Louis Corridor, replacing a bridge built in the 1890s.

SOUTHERN REGION

North Carolina – Charlotte to Richmond Service Enhancement – $4 million for environmental analysis on the Richmond to Raleigh section of the Southeast High Speed Rail Corridor (SEHSR). This advances the goal of extending high-speed rail service on the NEC into the southeast, with 110-mph capable service.

Texas – Dallas/Fort Worth to Houston Core Express Service – $15 million for engineering and environmental work to develop a high-speed rail corridor linking two of the largest metro areas in the U.S., Dallas/Fort Worth to Houston.

CALIFORNIA AND NORTHWEST REGION

California – Central Valley Construction Project Extension – $300 million for a 20-mile extension along the Central Valley Corridor. This will continue to advance one of the highest priority projects in the nation that will ultimately provide 220 mph high-speed rail service from Los Angeles to San Francisco. The work funded in this round will extend the track and civil work from Fresno to the “Wye” junction, which will provide a connection to San Jose to the West and Merced to the North.

Oregon – Eugene Station Stub Tracks – $1.5 million for analysis of overnight parking tracks for passenger trains on the southern end of the Pacific Northwest Corridor, adding new capacity for increased passenger and freight rail service.

Washington – Port of Vancouver Grade Separation – $15 million to eliminate a congested intersection and bottleneck between freight and passenger tracks. By elevating one set of tracks over the other, travel along the Pacific Northwest Rail Corridor will experience reduced delays and passenger trains will not have to wait for crossing freight traffic.
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Re: Sec. LaHood Makes $2.4 Billion Available for HSR Project

Postby afiggatt » Mon May 09, 2011 2:30 pm

j653 wrote:What's the justification for building a new line from Chicago to Detroit versus improving the Detroit-Toldeo-Chicago route? The Toledo route would also benefit east coast trains, versus a new line which will only benefit Detroit.

This is not a new line. This is for the improvement of the current Wolverine route with the purchase of 135 miles of NS track and upgrading it to 110 mph speeds. The route which goes through Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Ann Arbor, Dearborn on the way to Detroit. People do live and travel to/from those places I'm pretty sure. The LD trains from the east coast will see some improvements with the Englewood flyover and Indiana Gateway project in northern Indiana.

Unfortunately for those in Ohio, any corridor services to Ohio are dead so long as Kasich is Governor. He has made his position on passenger trains and transit pretty clear.
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