Rennes and Bordeaux -- high-speed lines open

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Rennes and Bordeaux -- high-speed lines open

Postby lpetrich » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:20 am

Courtesy of news.google.com

The LeMans-Rennes and Tours-Bordeaux lines were opened on Sunday, July 2.

Five hour delay on inaugural Paris-Toulouse TGV
The TGV was supposed to make the journey from Paris to Toulouse in just 4 hours 20 minutes but the journey took 9 hours 19 minute due to a broken down intercity train blocking the way at Agen, halfway between Bordeaux and Toulouse. The TGV train bound for Toulouse was left stranded in Bordeaux station.

Two new LGV lines were inaugurated this weekend – the 1 hour 30 minutes Paris-Rennes and 2 hour Paris-Bordeaux TGVs.


Francja: Nowe linie TGV do Bordeaux i Rennes - Koleje - rp.pl (in Polish: New TGV lines to Bordeaux and Rennes)
I'll paraphrase some of the article rather than quote it, since Google Translate produced some likely mistranslations.

The lines took 5 years to build, and the reduced Paris-Rennes by 39 minutes to 85 minutes, and Paris-Bordeaux by 70 minutes to 124 minutes. LeMans-Rennes is about 185 km long and cost EUR 3.4 billion (EUR 1.8 million/km), and Tours-Bordeaux is about 302 km long and cost EUR 7.8 billion (EUR 26 million/km).

But the lines have provoked some controversy.

Le TGV pour les gagnants, les cars Macron pour les perdants | L'Humanité (in French: The TGV for the winners, the Macron buses for the losers)
Google Translate, no editing:
However, it was not until this phase was found in the newspapers that the audiovisual media took possession of it. Hence the value of continuing to have a written press. The works on these two lines were financed by Vinci on the Paris-Bordeaux line and part Effage on the Paris-Rennes line. As a result, taking the train on these two lines will be relatively expensive and will therefore be easier for "successful people" than for "people who are nothing". Emmanuel Macron had already thought of the latter when he was minister. Macron buses run between Paris and Bordeaux as between Paris and Rennes and many other cities, while sites put online price comparisons between Ouibus, Isilines, Eurolines and some others "from € 15". But the carbon footprint per passenger is not taken into account in this tariff which nevertheless places transport companies in deficit on these lines.


Das Ende der Hochgeschwindigkeit | Tageblatt.lu (in German: The End of High Speed)
Google Translate, no editing:
President Macron, who fulfilled the boy's dream and was on the locomotive, then poured a bucket of ice-cold water in Rennes over all other TGV dreams in France. He announced the end of other TGV routes. The future railway landscape will be shaped by the railroad in the neighborhood along with the high-speed lines. No longer the TGV, but regional trains and local trains will be the priority of the French rail policy.


Emmanuel Macron veut "moins de LGV" : Carole Delga défend Bordeaux-Toulouse et Montpellier-Perpignan - Lindépendant.fr (in French: Emmanuel Macron wants "less LGV": Carole Delga defends Bordeaux-Toulouse and Montpellier-Perpignan)

The article points out that Spain has a high-speed line built to the France-Spain border. Thus, the French side has a gap.
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Re: Rennes and Bordeaux -- high-speed lines open

Postby lpetrich » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:25 am

There is another high-speed-related line that may open this year or the next.

Contournement Nîmes – Montpellier - Wikipedia (Nimes-Montpellier Bypass). From Contournement ferroviaire de Nîmes et de Montpellier — Wikipédia (in French).
Google Translate, no editing:
After 18 months devoted to studies, land acquisitions and obtaining various authorizations, construction of the line began at the end of 2013, with powering up in May 2017 and commissioning in December 2017.

This is in the "History" section, and it currently has a warning (Google Translate, no editing):
This section needs to be updated.

Passages in this section are obsolete or announce events that have passed. Improve it or discuss the points to check.
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Re: Rennes and Bordeaux -- high-speed lines open

Postby lpetrich » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:47 am

I'll now check on List of the 75 largest cities in France (2012 census) - Wikipedia to see which ones do not have a high-speed line nearby.

The largest ones are Toulouse (453k, #4), Nice (344k, #5), and Nantes (291k, #6). Then a big gap until Reims (182k, #12) and Le Havre (173k, #13).

A Bordeaux-Toulouse line seems the farthest along, with plans for Marseille-Nice shelved, and no plans for LeMans-Nantes.
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