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Re: Pennsylvania and Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby RussNelson » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:49 pm

dj_paige wrote:
lvrr 560 wrote:The P & SB did some gradeing in Wayne county.East of Alloway there is a cut in the woods that was

the ROW. My guess is that they were heading north to Lyons and close the route 14 highway alignment

to Sodus Point.


On the east side of Route 14, south of the Toganenwood B&B, is something that looks like a raised berm, possibly a railroad grading. It is visible from the road, unobscured. In at least two places, there is a cut perpendicular to the grading or berm, that looks similar to me to other perpendicular cuts in railroad grading that I have seen. Sorry, I didn't stop for a picture. Here is a link to what I saw.

The official map that I saw in the Wayne County Clerk's Office showed the P&SB going through the west edge of the Village of Clyde. Given the meander at the location you depict, I speculate that it's related to the river, not a railroad.
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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby gdmurphey » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:14 pm

Hi, I am new to this forum thanks in part to this topic. I used to live in Trumansburg from my birth in 1952, till I left in 1970. My parents owned a farm in Halseyville, NY and I am very familiar with the Penn - Sodus RR. Actually, the line formed the back west border of our farm with Taughanock creek forming the north border. Our farm was located on the corner of NYS 96 and Halseyville - Enfield Road. Below is a picture of our old farm showing the northwest corner. Note the white line represents the rail bed - at the north end of that line is the rail abutment for the trestle that was never built over Taughanock Creek. Built in 1873, the abutment was still there at the time of this writing.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7461 ... 89d2_b.jpg

The road in the north east corner is Rabbit Run -- this is just below the Trumansburg Fair Grounds. I don't know if a map showing the proposed route has been shown ---

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7461 ... 057e_b.jpg

Here is a link to my FLIKR set showing the trestle ---- http://www.flickr.com/photos/14024074@N ... 330744582/

At one time (1945 - 98), the 212 acre farm belonged to Robert Dean and Camille Murphey my dad and mom. It is my recent understanding that the rail-bed and abutment are severely overgrown making it now nearly impossible to be seen from the farm, and as you can judge from the pictures it is almost impossible to be seen from the creek bed.

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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby RussNelson » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:50 am

I've seen that map before. It's reasonably accurate towards the south end, but is not very accurate towards the north. It takes a big looping curve to the east at Ovid, going due west at one point then turning 90 degrees to the north, and another curve at Fayette. This knowledge is from field research, studying aerial photography, and finding the original 140-year-old maps in the county clerk's office.

Whoa! If I understand you correctly, there were *two* P&SB railbeds on your family's farm?? The one white line, and the other further to the east between the two green lines?? That's kinda crazy stuff. So it's an unfinished abandoned unfinished railroad?
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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby gdmurphey » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:17 pm

RussNelson wrote:I've seen that map before. It's reasonably accurate towards the south end, but is not very accurate towards the north. It takes a big looping curve to the east at Ovid, going due west at one point then turning 90 degrees to the north, and another curve at Fayette. This knowledge is from field research, studying aerial photography, and finding the original 140-year-old maps in the county clerk's office.

Whoa! If I understand you correctly, there were *two* P&SB railbeds on your family's farm?? The one white line, and the other further to the east between the two green lines?? That's kinda crazy stuff. So it's an unfinished abandoned unfinished railroad?


Russ --- It was my mistake when I posted the aerial shot -- I placed the road-bed in the wrong area, I have since corrected that --

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7461 ... 89d2_b.jpg ----

the white line represents the rail - bed of the Pennsylvania & Sodus, at the north end of that line is the trestle abutment which still stands --- THERE WAS JUST THE ONE LINE ---

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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby gdmurphey » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:28 pm

Map showing the Penn Sodus from south of the Trumansburg Fairgrounds to just south of Newfield ---

http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/p_w84hwp9U
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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby RussNelson » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:52 pm

Ahhhh, you edited the picture on Flickr to match my understanding. Kinda disappointing actually. Would have been great to find (another) abandoned unfinished railroad. The (other) one to which I refer is a section of the Saratoga & Sackets Harbor railway. It was finished to North Creek and a few miles beyond, but there's a short piece which which was going to route the railbed a bit to the west of where it actually ran. Unfinished culverts, fills, and cuts. Plenty of coolness to look at.
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Re: Pennsylvania & Sodus Bay unfinished railroad

Postby gdmurphey » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:57 am

Russ --

Here is an aerial map I made of the Penn-Sodus starting at our old farm in Halseyville and heeding south to Newfield ---

http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/p_w84hwp9U
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