Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:58 pm

They went out there with loaded cars and brought back the emptys thats been there for 6 weeks.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:11 pm

NYA went out to Bridgehampton today at 1040am through Westhampton with 159 and 155 with 6 tank cars.Looks like every 4 weeks for deliverly.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:27 pm

NYA went east today with engine 155 a box car and 5 tank cars to Bridgehampton.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby Teutobergerwald » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:57 pm

And returned with 6 or perhaps 7 tankcars and a boxcar past Richmond Hill team yard westbound around 3:30pm, MP-15ac's 155 & 159 were the power.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Thu May 23, 2013 5:52 pm

NYA westbound at Westhampton at 243pm with eng 268 and 270 with one soy bean tanker and 5 tank bombs from pulver.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby train2 » Fri May 31, 2013 9:03 am

I don't read this board often, but today I was looking for some info and I ran across this post to which I can add some information:

As an FYI: if a customer uses private rail cars, those ending in X on the reporting marks there is not a penalty for cars sitting. (RR owned cars yes) Then movement of the car is directed by the owner or the shipper and sometimes it is simply a agreement between the car owner and the customer. Some customers use the cars as storage in place an unload when needed. This happens a lot.

Now as to IF the customer wants more service and NYA is not giving that is another story. However I suspect, the RR told the customer it will cost less if we wait to we make it worth our while to bring a number of cars and run out given the distance. Now the downside is the customer gets use to not having the RR be an important part of the business plan.

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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:15 am

NYA with engines 159 and 261 with 1 boxcar and 5 tankers just went passed Westhampton going east at 1044am.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby Sir Ray » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:15 am

train2 wrote:Now the downside is the customer gets use to not having the RR be an important part of the business plan.

Well, if the customer is now figuring in the use of the rolling stock as transport and storage (so they don't need to add their own storage improvements such as silos and tanks, which raise the value of their business property), then they ARE having the RR be an important part of their business plan.

I wonder, when a customer buys and converts rolling stock into fixed storage (like those 7 or so covered hoppers at that plastics firm in East Newark, NJ - or closer to home, that covered hopper used for storage at Quality Lineals in Freeport till they moved it last year) - does that then count as property improvements in their real estate tax assessment?
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:03 pm

NYA heading west by Westhampton at 1:54pm with Eng 155 and one small tank car and 5 bombs from Bridgehampton.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby saucejstuder » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:42 pm

train2 wrote:I don't read this board often, but today I was looking for some info and I ran across this post to which I can add some information:

As an FYI: if a customer uses private rail cars, those ending in X on the reporting marks there is not a penalty for cars sitting. (RR owned cars yes) Then movement of the car is directed by the owner or the shipper and sometimes it is simply a agreement between the car owner and the customer. Some customers use the cars as storage in place an unload when needed. This happens a lot.

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The exceptions being ABOX, FBOX, RBOX, TBOX and any **ZX traffic (and the ZX stuff is pricey). I'm sure there are a couple more, but those are the most common :)
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:02 pm

NYA with Eng 151 and 6 tank cars going east at Westhampton at 143pm today.Thats the first deliverly of tank cars since Aug 22. That's a long wait for tank cars to come east.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby dedm30junk » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Just heard some bad news today.NYA went out to Pulver Gas in Bridgehampton today with Eng 270 long hood and 1 box car to pick up 5 tank cars that's been sitting there since Oct 9th for the final time Pulver Gas is no longer a NYA customer as of today.They went from getting 5 tanks a week to 5 tanks a month because as I was told it was not a money maker for them to go that far east for the only customer east of Babylon. Sad day for the Montauk branch east of Babylon to see freight action. Someone needs to call Senator Chuck to take action.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby Ðauntless » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:17 pm

Theres a great story in wreck of the Penn Central about the classic examples of customers who get cars on long branch lines where the crew costs more to go get it, then the car brings in to the railroad. Sometimes it is just not economical to ship by rail..
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby Teutobergerwald » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:27 pm

It doesn't help that, for one reason or another, NYA lost its other customers east of Babylon, and didn't seem to attract new ones that could be served at the team tracks the LIRR has along the line.
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Re: Have not seen NYA out east in Bridgehampton

Postby lirr42 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:29 am

Pretty sad news... I see tons of trucks gumming up Montauk Highway, you would think they would be adding customers, but alas.
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